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Korpijarvi's avatar

> Bronze Age Collapse

Meh. It was only a flesh wound.

Now this here--this was a collapse.

https://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/2019/10/14/religion-and-younger-dryas/

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Good video. Thanks.

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Bearing in mind of course that "impacts" is all the standard model of cosmology/astrophysics (with its fixation on gravity) allows. There are ample data suggesting that the "impacts" weren't Rogue Cosmic Billiard Balls but plasma surges or re-organizations in the earth's/sun's local Birkeland currents. From a human perspective, literal thunderbolts, in a time/during a period when the earth's electromagnetic fields were MUCH more active than we experience today.

I've been suspicious back to high school of the argument that, of the Bronze Age population centers that were "sacked" and abandoned, they show evidence of massive combustion, meaning the "sackers" must have "burned them down."

These days, of the usual newer YouTube videos on the topic, some even note that it's a mystery how "sackers" could get stone to "burn" like that. :^D

The ubiquity of the BAC suggests something the opposite of local.

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The History.com article said it took decades, so I'm thinking that it just kept grinding on, getting worse and worse. Mr. Burja thought that the nail in the coffin was the inability of many, or most, places to get both tin and copper in sufficient quantities to make enough bronze for their civilizations to endure. I picture a skilled workman with his bronze tools, but the metal workers are slowly losing the ability to make more tools. Slowly his tools become useless, but not right away, but the whole city slowly deteriorates as the tools go bad. This is happening everywhere, so you keep getting less tin and copper as a result. (Who fixes the ships?) City states start attacking their neighbors in an effort to stay afloat. This is all triggered by the initial natural disasters.

I know of the fourth turning and have read part of it. It's seen as cultural decay generation to generation after the resolving of the previous crisis. I wonder if we tend to get major wars roughly every 80 years because no one with significant power remembers the previous ones. Our present leaders seem to think our military is invincible. Sometimes I think Heinlein's idea of only veterans being allowed to vote or run for office might be good, but that would be a problem too.

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Hello Ms. PB,

A few extra thoughts. I think originally, correct me if I'm wrong, the idea was that only property owners should vote, the idea no doubt being that such people would be mostly paying attention. There would be exceptions. If you haven't seen this essay of mine already you might like it. It shows some old attitudes on the selection and preparation of leaders.

https://drp314.substack.com/p/to-ride-shoot-straight-and-speak

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Bad times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create bad times, bad times create strong men……. You’ve probably heard that.

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